Sunday, November 29, 2009
Monday, November 23, 2009
Urgent Update! Manson Hater's Have A New Group! (charlesmansonandmore)
Well, I just found out this morning that CG and her worthless crew of Manson hating, Eran worshipers have started a new group at Yahoo. I actually didn't know who was in there when I submitted a membership request yesterday. Luckily, I found out before it was too late. The group is called: "charlesmansonandmore" and I have gathered a few posts from there specially for this blog. I'm only going to publish the post I feel is the most relevant at this time until I get the others sorted out. This message here made me laugh so hard I literally fell out of my chair LOL:) I have taken the liberty of adding my own commentary below the original post as well. Check it out:
Re: [charlesmansonandmore] Re: well what next?
--- In charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com, David Paschal wrote:
Well also with regard to Eran, Noel has really zeroed in on him as
her "tormentor". Looking at her blog you can tell how psychotic she
is when it comes to him. I do really believe she has some serious mental
problems. Saying that, I think this is another reason he, Eran, went
underground.
There is really no telling what she would do. She is posting all our
posts from
the group on her blog, but at least she is removing most of the email
address.
Thing is mine has my name on it so....now all her nut friends know my name.
I am still a proponent of using the old group because activity is
picking up again.
dp
charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> thanks for your input David.
> I hate putting people on moderation . we try to get it approved as
> quickly
> as we can.
> and I hate to leave all those neat posts over there. as for Eran. I
> didn't
> even realize how connected he was with the case. but good grief he could
> have stayed and helped us to understand her..
> But from what I understand he just dumped all known email addys.
> I would never have known because he was never *over the top* about her or
> the case. I would have liked to know how he feels about the whole story.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Paschal" To: <charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com
>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [charlesmansonandmore] Re: well what next?
>
> >I agree. For the record I told Eran personally he shouldn't get to
> > emotionally involved with people because you just don't know
> > what will happen. You loose your objectivity in looking at a case
> > when you get so tightly connected with people directly involved.
> >
> > On the issue of the groups. I say the other/older group has so many
> > members it is difficult to make a good transition. I know that there
> > are probably one or more spies in there that we know of. I say who
> > cares. I am fine with you guys filtering all posts for as long as you
> > decide.
> > If the delay is 24 hours I don't care. The trolls will figure that you
> > are filtering and finally just give up. When you decide to stop
> filtering
> > tell no one and just stop it. It may take a week or month I don't know
> > but it will be better than abandoning the old group. This situation
> > has had a positive effect in one area. I have seen a few new posters
> > in the last several days I have never heard of, and they are posting
> > intelligent and good questions. So, good people are coming
> > out of the woodwork it seems.
> >
> > My two cents is now in!
> >
> > dp
> >
> >
> > charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Eran didn't leave because of the problems it has been reported he was
> >> devastated when Susan Atkins died ./Apparently he was helping her
> >> hubby work
> >> on a book or something.
> >> Unless someone knows different.
> >> as for Jim I don't know why he left.
> >> So David are you saying it might be best to just dump the groups or
> what?
> >> As far as I know we have not lost any other members
> >> I am hearing from some in other groups this crap happens more then I
> >> think.
> >> All this is ,is just someone with way too much time on their hands and
> >> what
> >> they WANT is for us to duck and run./
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Paschal" >> To: <charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com
>
> >>>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [charlesmansonandmore] Re: well what next?
> >>
> >> >I say keep the old group going. I know it has taken lots of
> >> > moderation to keep the troll issue under control but it is a large
> >> > group and will be difficult to replicate.
> >> >
> >> > Now, I don't know all the issues involved in the past but this
> >> > thing is bordering on the psychotic. Damn it is a yahoo
> >> > group after all. Report these issues to yahoo and keep
> >> > following up as long as it takes.
> >> >
> >> > I have already seen one blog and it is awful and I don't even
> >> > know who most of those people are. The other is from
> >> > our former member who continues with her postings of our
> >> > old posts. If we are losing good members like Jim and
> >> > Eran and others it is not worth all this.
> >> >
> >> > dp
(LMFAO! Really now! Psychotic? It's amazing to see how "Davey Boy" has the audacity to label ME as psychotic when he doesn't even know me. Obviously, he thinks he's some sort of self proclaimed therapist who has the ability and the right to evaluate me. What a joke! If I had a therapist like HIM, I would hang myself from the nearest tree! Perhaps he should try evaluating HIS OWN repulsive self or better yet that filthy piece of crap"White Rabbitt" who has definitely shown himself to be quite psycho. I read a book he wrote which proves just how nutty he truly is. I want to make it clear that I would NEVER waste my good money on a piece of garbage like this and I only got to see the contents of the book because a reliable source sent it to me in PDF format which requires the use of "Adobe Reader" to view. I only got to the part where "White Rabbitt" talks about how Clem (Manson associate) accidentally sliced off his winkie and Charlie allegedly placed his hands on it which magically made it re-attach itself. I could read no more at that point because I was laughing too hard LOL:) Anyway, David doesn't seem to mind having that nutcase in the "charlesmansonandmore" group but I guess it's because "White Rabbitt" is a little patsy who can easily be used to spy or do other shameful tasks that CG and the rest of them assign him to. Luckily, they can't use ME anymore because I got out in time. For the record, the main reason I'm focusing on Eran so much here is because he did nothing but cause trouble for me in the "charlesmanson_and_family" group by repeatedly dishing out lame insults and challenging every word I said in support of Charlie. Eran was indeed my "Tormentor" as David put it. The other reason is because it's clear CG shows him favoritism and the others with the exception of "White Rabbitt" follow her lead. I don't think it's fair for Eran or anyone else to be given a higher degree of respect than the rest of us. EVERYONE should get equal respect especially in a group setting. Unfortunately, Eran has been put up on a pedestal by CG and her crew. Pathetic!)
I'm going to sort through the rest of the messages I got from the new group soon and by this weekend, I will publish the rest of them here. I'm thinking CG and her crew started the new "charlesmansonandmore" group just to throw me off the track of "charlesmanson_and_family" but I do NOT intend on backing down. I will continue to publish the messages from "charlesmanson_and_family" right after I publish all the messages I have from the new group. That is all.
Well also with regard to Eran, Noel has really zeroed in on him as
her "tormentor". Looking at her blog you can tell how psychotic she
is when it comes to him. I do really believe she has some serious mental
problems. Saying that, I think this is another reason he, Eran, went
underground.
There is really no telling what she would do. She is posting all our
posts from
the group on her blog, but at least she is removing most of the email
address.
Thing is mine has my name on it so....now all her nut friends know my name.
I am still a proponent of using the old group because activity is
picking up again.
dp
charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> thanks for your input David.
> I hate putting people on moderation . we try to get it approved as
> quickly
> as we can.
> and I hate to leave all those neat posts over there. as for Eran. I
> didn't
> even realize how connected he was with the case. but good grief he could
> have stayed and helped us to understand her..
> But from what I understand he just dumped all known email addys.
> I would never have known because he was never *over the top* about her or
> the case. I would have liked to know how he feels about the whole story.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Paschal"
>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [charlesmansonandmore] Re: well what next?
>
> >I agree. For the record I told Eran personally he shouldn't get to
> > emotionally involved with people because you just don't know
> > what will happen. You loose your objectivity in looking at a case
> > when you get so tightly connected with people directly involved.
> >
> > On the issue of the groups. I say the other/older group has so many
> > members it is difficult to make a good transition. I know that there
> > are probably one or more spies in there that we know of. I say who
> > cares. I am fine with you guys filtering all posts for as long as you
> > decide.
> > If the delay is 24 hours I don't care. The trolls will figure that you
> > are filtering and finally just give up. When you decide to stop
> filtering
> > tell no one and just stop it. It may take a week or month I don't know
> > but it will be better than abandoning the old group. This situation
> > has had a positive effect in one area. I have seen a few new posters
> > in the last several days I have never heard of, and they are posting
> > intelligent and good questions. So, good people are coming
> > out of the woodwork it seems.
> >
> > My two cents is now in!
> >
> > dp
> >
> >
> > charlesmansonandmore@yahoogroups.com
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Eran didn't leave because of the problems it has been reported he was
> >> devastated when Susan Atkins died ./Apparently he was helping her
> >> hubby work
> >> on a book or something.
> >> Unless someone knows different.
> >> as for Jim I don't know why he left.
> >> So David are you saying it might be best to just dump the groups or
> what?
> >> As far as I know we have not lost any other members
> >> I am hearing from some in other groups this crap happens more then I
> >> think.
> >> All this is ,is just someone with way too much time on their hands and
> >> what
> >> they WANT is for us to duck and run./
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Paschal"
>
> >>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [charlesmansonandmore] Re: well what next?
> >>
> >> >I say keep the old group going. I know it has taken lots of
> >> > moderation to keep the troll issue under control but it is a large
> >> > group and will be difficult to replicate.
> >> >
> >> > Now, I don't know all the issues involved in the past but this
> >> > thing is bordering on the psychotic. Damn it is a yahoo
> >> > group after all. Report these issues to yahoo and keep
> >> > following up as long as it takes.
> >> >
> >> > I have already seen one blog and it is awful and I don't even
> >> > know who most of those people are. The other is from
> >> > our former member who continues with her postings of our
> >> > old posts. If we are losing good members like Jim and
> >> > Eran and others it is not worth all this.
> >> >
> >> > dp
(LMFAO! Really now! Psychotic? It's amazing to see how "Davey Boy" has the audacity to label ME as psychotic when he doesn't even know me. Obviously, he thinks he's some sort of self proclaimed therapist who has the ability and the right to evaluate me. What a joke! If I had a therapist like HIM, I would hang myself from the nearest tree! Perhaps he should try evaluating HIS OWN repulsive self or better yet that filthy piece of crap"White Rabbitt" who has definitely shown himself to be quite psycho. I read a book he wrote which proves just how nutty he truly is. I want to make it clear that I would NEVER waste my good money on a piece of garbage like this and I only got to see the contents of the book because a reliable source sent it to me in PDF format which requires the use of "Adobe Reader" to view. I only got to the part where "White Rabbitt" talks about how Clem (Manson associate) accidentally sliced off his winkie and Charlie allegedly placed his hands on it which magically made it re-attach itself. I could read no more at that point because I was laughing too hard LOL:) Anyway, David doesn't seem to mind having that nutcase in the "charlesmansonandmore" group but I guess it's because "White Rabbitt" is a little patsy who can easily be used to spy or do other shameful tasks that CG and the rest of them assign him to. Luckily, they can't use ME anymore because I got out in time. For the record, the main reason I'm focusing on Eran so much here is because he did nothing but cause trouble for me in the "charlesmanson_and_family" group by repeatedly dishing out lame insults and challenging every word I said in support of Charlie. Eran was indeed my "Tormentor" as David put it. The other reason is because it's clear CG shows him favoritism and the others with the exception of "White Rabbitt" follow her lead. I don't think it's fair for Eran or anyone else to be given a higher degree of respect than the rest of us. EVERYONE should get equal respect especially in a group setting. Unfortunately, Eran has been put up on a pedestal by CG and her crew. Pathetic!)
I'm going to sort through the rest of the messages I got from the new group soon and by this weekend, I will publish the rest of them here. I'm thinking CG and her crew started the new "charlesmansonandmore" group just to throw me off the track of "charlesmanson_and_family" but I do NOT intend on backing down. I will continue to publish the messages from "charlesmanson_and_family" right after I publish all the messages I have from the new group. That is all.
